It's a normal son, you know, a lot of people say you learn from outside of other sports and that's important. But even within the sport it can be reaffirmation of what you're doing is right it can be ideas of how you could improve yourself because anyone anyone who believes that they have all the answers are knows everything well to me, they're deluding themselves. So having someone that you can bounce things off and just even peer peer review as an example just been able to sit down and talk and you learn from people and I think the day you stop learning. It's like a player saying they're going to stop improving the reach their people and give up.